Daytona & Dega

[43fan]

i have a question does anyone know what affect the steering lock and steering trim have for 360....not using a steering wheel?

[BabaGahNush]

Steering lock is how much the wheels can turn. At places like Dega and Tona you'd want that to be a lower number since you want the least amount of speed scrubbed off in the turns and it makes it more smooth. Places like Martinsville and Bristol would need a higher steering lock since u turn the wheel a lot more.

Steering trim is what offsets the pull to the left you might get with a setup. If your car pulls to the left bc of your toe or camber/caster, turn it up and that should help a little at least. A lot of people think steering trim has something to do with the sensitivity of the steering. They're wrong.

[tonysparks420]

Im bran new to this site, I read all the posts, tried all the diferent setups, put it back to default ran Daytona at 48.6, then only changed grill tape from 40% to 80% and ran 47.9 and 48.0 on Daytona. Is that good? It looked to me like the setups on here weren't really doing much.

p.s. is there any way I can keep my engine from overheating on long races without having to reduce grill tape every pit? i.e. drafting or shallower line

[tonysparks420]

Heres a setup i just got going tonight. Still needs some work but i got the nextel car getting 47.7 on daytona.

If Its not listed then I just left it as default

TIRES

FL = 39.0 psi FR = 45.5 psi

RL = 38.0 psi RR = 43.5 psi


Drivetrain

Differential Ratio 3.07:1
1st - 2.24
2nd - 1.57
3rd - 1.24
4th - 0.96

Steering trim = 2.0
Steering lock = 5.0

About grill tape. For me it varies on how long of a race I'm doing. For qualifying I set it to 100%. For 20 laps at Daytona I usually set it to 70%- 80%. For the long races like 100 laps or more I set it at around 65% and every time I pit it bring it down 10% - 20%. Theres nothing worse than taking that 50th lap and realizing theres a huge loss in power due to overheating.


Well thats all of my newest setup for Daytona. I know you can still get more speed out of these cars but its fujuckin hard. If anyone has any ideas on how to get more speed out of my setup please tell me.

[yukyuphat]

Here is a setup i run for Dega, I kinda like it! its a chevy setup, don't know if that makes a difference...


Tona

Basic
gearing 3rd from right
handling all to the left
downforce left all
suspension right all

aero
grille tape, 85 100 for quals

suspension
front left
bump 9
rebound 9
spring 2200
ride hight 4.5

rear left
ride height 6.056
track bar 9.75

front right
same as left

rear right
ride height 6
track bar 10.75

weight dist
wedge 48.7
front bias 53
left bias 54.2
drive train
diff 3.33
first 2.00
second 1.40
third 1.04
fourth .88

[ryhno8]

ford racing jim love your set up i am running low 48s the only prob is i eat right fronts it could be my driving though to let me know if you have this prob

[jcconder]

fordracingjim said:

My overall opinion is NASCAR 08 is a POS compared to 05. Seems to me EA hired a bunch of computer nerds who know very little about how a car really works. In real life, you balance your car so that you have even tire ware to the best possible. Of course your RF will always ware out first in real life, but I'm not quite sure what the nerds of 08 are looking for.

On Daytona, NORMAL Setting, my car seems fast...I run a 47.4-47.5 consistant. My car walks away from the CPU cars right away and my car has great straight away speed, tops though is 194 (I think you 200+ guys are liars), but my car scrubs speed on the banking. But I still walk away from the CPU cars.

Dega is the biotch though. I have very little time on this track though. But, dega's 2 & 4 turns are a biotch to exit. I don't think this is the case in real life. I scrub tons of speed in the corners and the CPU cars are much faster on this track...even with my tona setup. I will be posting what I have soon as soon as I can get something that's worth handing out.

I still want to know some realistic times ya'll are getting so I can have a base time to measure up to.

[jcconder]

fordracingjim said:

My overall opinion is NASCAR 08 is a POS compared to 05. Seems to me EA hired a bunch of computer nerds who know very little about how a car really works. In real life, you balance your car so that you have even tire ware to the best possible. Of course your RF will always ware out first in real life, but I'm not quite sure what the nerds of 08 are looking for.

On Daytona, NORMAL Setting, my car seems fast...I run a 47.4-47.5 consistant. My car walks away from the CPU cars right away and my car has great straight away speed, tops though is 194 (I think you 200+ guys are liars), but my car scrubs speed on the banking. But I still walk away from the CPU cars.

Dega is the biotch though. I have very little time on this track though. But, dega's 2 & 4 turns are a biotch to exit. I don't think this is the case in real life. I scrub tons of speed in the corners and the CPU cars are much faster on this track...even with my tona setup. I will be posting what I have soon as soon as I can get something that's worth handing out.

I still want to know some realistic times ya'll are getting so I can have a base time to measure up to.

If your car is scrubbing speed try going up with the ride height, way up like all the way up on leftfront leftrear and right rear.dega 48.1,2,3 202 eos no draft

[dalejrfan88]

With the nextel car i just got a 47.466 at daytona.

[rongmont]

think ur gears are to much for u to get to 200 try a 307 differential and adjust 4th gear to were u redline only in the draft

gamertag rongmont

good luck

[kingsmt]

I run 47.2's in qual at Daytona. Every now and then i can get into the high 47.1's. Speed is important at Daytona but handling is more important bc if you can get ur car nice and snug and be able to drive it anywhere without problem u'll be good in the draft.

[kingsmt]

Oh. Also I'm running 48.066 at Dega in qualifying (regular cup car). A lot of guys have problems with this track coming off the corners. You just have to get ur car stable and be smooth. It's really not that bad.

[Stretcher73]

I agree with the people that say using the basic tabs will get you into trouble, the reason for this is they are "generic" adjustments, not user specific tuning.

I'm sure by now people have gotten a better handle on the setups but the quicker setups are not posted. Currrent cars can hit 200 in qual trim easy. Most setups I have seen here go to the extremes on the gearing, either way too much or not enough.

What I have found is that for qualifiying and races up to 30 laps a final drive ratio of 2.94:1 is what works best for me. I can get 47.300 more times than not, if no glitches 47.166. I have seen 47.000 but I can not do it. For races 30 to 50 laps I find the 2.91:1 works really good with 85% tape. for 50 to 90 laps I still use 85% tape but go down once again to 2.86:1. Even when out of the draft with the 2.86:1 gear I can turn 47.9 lap times. Now thats with no damage to the car.

The biggest killer of the engines is the time near red-line you can torch a motor quick with too much gear and very little tape. I have seen many guys blow up in a 50 lap race 40 laps into it. When asked what gears they are using they give a rediculasly high ratio.

I adjust the other gears to match my rear dif and give good acceleration on starts and resarts. Using the final drive ratio to adjust I start at 4th gear, here is a sample

4 th gear final drive ratio 2.94:1
3 rd gear final drive ratio 3.7*
2 nd gear final drive ratio 4.6*
1 st gear final drive ratio 5.5*
Thats an example of my short race gearing has about a 1500 rpm drop between gears and will most times start in 1st gear for restarts which is key for getting a good jump. Now those are the final drive ratios NOT the gears for each gear the final drive is the number after the actual gear IE 4th 1.0:1/2.94:1

As for the other adjustments on the car thats a personal pref for the driver, with one excption the left front ride height needs to be rasied to at the very least 5.5". I prefer to have max front weight and max left bias with wedge around 48.6%. If you have raced with me on-line you know that I run up front most of the time and most times will help with setups if you raced clean.
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[rwblue48]

alright guys. i'll add something that hasnt been talked about. put your weight bias from front to rear at 50%. Make your right front tire pressure 49.5. If you are running the COT make the front splitter 6.00" instead of four. These three simple little adjustments make a world of a difference!! later

[TCHDWNUGA]

;DI run 47.833s @ Talladega Nextel Qualifying.